So, police-community relations were very challenging for a lot of us and Al Lipscomb was a very, very closely cause Al was a community organizer [?] partnership and Randy [?] has been his mentor also to see Lip a lot and we became very good friends, we marched together, we picketed together. He got involved with the Cesar Chavez movement and myself, and others. And, I later learned that Zahn Holmes and I Al were driving to Fort Worth one day to church, we were in a car driving together and I made a comment and Lip would always say, "Excellent, Excellent Point!" and that was is a cliche comment and so, it caught my attention, I was in the front seat and he was in the back seat and I said, Lip, what did you do before you became an organzer?" And, he said, "I was a bootlicking waiter at the best restaurents in Dallas." And, well, I said, "Well, my dad was a waiter, I said, "Where?" And, he started naming all the restaurants [?] and he said, "And then I also worked at Latonesha Restaurant." I said, "When did you worked at Latinesha?" He said, "Around the early 60s, 61, 62." And, I said, "Lip, I was a busboy at Latinesha." And, he said, "I was a waiter, where were you stationed?" I said, "I was stationed out in the front." I said, "No wonder you use that term." because when we were trained at Latinesha, we would come in and order a beef kobab or a shish kobab and ask em. And they would say, "How is this entree?" Our response was, "Excellent, excellent choice!" I said, "Lip, I think I was your busboy." So, that's how far back, I go back, and we all laughed, of course. But, we marched together, we picketed together, we protested together, and we became very very dear friends. I learned a lot from Al Lipscomb, in terms of his passion and his commitment to seeing what the minority community is all about........