SE/SR: So, just a real quick question on that because a lot of people have talked about the Moody Park rebellion. In your estimation, from what you saw first-hand how did it unfold to rebellion, how did that happen? LC: People were angry; there were teenagers there that were angry. There were a lot of Mexican Americans who were angry, and people were upset. There was this boiling anger, and people had every right to be angry because of what they did to Jose Campos Torres, who was a war hero. The way they just took them out and beat him up. They [the police] took him to the police station instead of taking him to the hospital; they took him back to the Bayou. They beat him up some more, and they threw him in the Bayou, and he drowned. I mean, it was murder, and then for those cops to get no punishment. A slap on the wrist. We were angry, people were angry. I mean, there were some people back then that were talking about some serious repercussions doing something. It was a very, very tense time, and then it was very obvious to a lot of people that if there was any kind of rally, if there was any kind of event commemoration at Moody Park, that something was going to happen because people were angry, they were mad. We were all mad. SE/SR: So even though this group [white communist group] comes in [inaudible] instigate things in your estimation that sentiment was already there. LC: Well, that was another time when that group came in. But the actual riot occurred another time when that group was not even there; that was another commemoration of the murder of Jose Campos Torres. And you know that still pisses me off to this day. That still makes me angry my goodness is that was they think of us, were just animals to be killed to be shot to be dumped in the bayou. That’s what makes me so angry. This politician [Donald J. Trump] saying that Mexicans are rapists and thieves, it makes me so angry. It’s kind of like he wants to take everything back to those days. But anyway going back to the Jose Campos Torres thing, that started at a different commemoration, at a different time when the people just … their anger just burst out. they started throwing rocks at the police cars they started burning the cars and kicking them and some policeman got run over. We just got real serious, but it was just a manifestation of all that anger. people were angry and I don’t blame them. They just have to let something out, something had to explode. It was just too much tension too much tension and then with the awakening of all these young people through the chicano movement to the history to the heritage to the political exploitation and it was too much it was too much and it was obvious that it was going to explode and then it exploded. And people are still angry today because of that. but in those days, AAMA [Association for the Advancement of Mexican Americans] was involved in advocacy with that we were involved in other advocacy events, and I had always wanted AAMA to be involved in some kind of advocacy. Today, it’s really more of an educational support program. It’s more of a social service program. It’s more of a health support program, drug counseling type program and it really doesn’t do a lot of advocacy. That’s fine. We need those services but we also need to remember that we have to institutionalize the revolution. and so by not doing advocacy, we are not institutionalizing the revolution because they are resources there at AAMA that could be used to do print out to print to do different things which we were doing because we even started a printing press to print flyers other things that were necessary.