0:30 Second time, my sophomore year, the person that picked us up, his name was Bernardo Montez, his son went out to become a high official during the Carter Administration 0:30 he realizing that I needed to continue my education agreed to take the family up north through to Montana, but let me stay behind, finish high school 0:30 And then go on to another family and that was [?] that I remember cause this family and myself went up on train. Going on day and night. 0:30 [?] the experience sitting there, I remember going up sitting in the smoking room and men were talking and, and this is an conversation 0:30 And there was one man very very vocal about segregation, he strongly advocated that African Americans be transported back to Africa and rid the U.S 0:30 Probably, maybe half of them. And he feels strong about that [?] and, but that trip by train was [?] The year before, we have been transported in a truck and it was 0:30 one of those trucks that had [?] all around it, you know left side, where we sat and my [?] was in the middle, we traveled all day long 0:30 We would stop and get some bologne and local bread and what [?] we ate while we were traveling. At night, we would sort of 0:30 trade place and sleep on our head like this and sleep on top of [?] , but when you are traveling from Texas to Montana, when I was in school, studying 0:30 history and geography, and the teacher talking about the capitols of different states. And he saying about what the capitol of Nebraska and the rest say, "Oh, I been there, " lol! 0:30 "I've been through there!" Some of us think that I have been to school....